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A rather heated debate with a rogue antispyware maker

There’s a thread over at CastleCops (thanks PG), (opens in new tab)where the security folks are arguing with the people from IEDefender (opens in new tab) as to whether or not the program is malware.

It starts friendly enough, with IEdefender using the standard “it’s not my fault, it’s these terrible affiliates”:

iedefender: Hello, we're developers of IEDefender, our software is clean and is real antispyware. As we can see, people from your site send our exe to different antivirus and antispyware companies, trying to black PR our company. They've got answers, that our soft is clean, because IT IS CLEAN! We contacted Kaspersky, they also confirmed, there are no problems with our software, you can check our .exe with any popular antiviruses, there no problems! Stop sending your detractive mails and messages, in other case we would be forced to send all information to our lawyers and meet your representative in the court, where it would be very hard for you to prove, that our software is not real, because IT'S REAL ANTISPYWARE!

@ iedefender

Answer this directly .

If you are legit then why does malware advertise your software ?

iedefender:Yes, we know about this problem, we have a partnership for our distributors to advertise our program, we pay them a percent of registration fee. Some of them use illegal methods, that we not accept, our customers send us abuses about it and we closed some of our affiliates accounts without paying them. We are watching on it but there are problems with them sometimes. We're working on this problem and it's very sad for us. But just think if somebody would advertise any famous antiviruses this way would you add them to malware too?

Then as things progress, it starts to get uglier and uglier:

MANY well known companies have been ripped to shreds for the same thing ....... but in your case, not only are you spamvertized via malware, a part of your own software is also detected as malware

iedefender: Oh, really? Who detects it? You? Any proves? Tell us, what part of our software is malware? I see only bullshit from you, no proves and nothing else. All new messages without proves from you would be ignored, I want to talk with smart people not ones, who just want to spit here.


idefender: 2paperghost

Man??? With whom you r talking?

IE Defender Members - People who paid for our software, and they can register on our forum. You r stupid? This is so simple... lol.


Well, it’s not the first time forum members have had to battle one of these folks. Won’t be the last.

Alex is a technology CEO, with leadership, operating partner, investor, and board member roles at security firms including AutoLoop, Borland, Quarterdeck (now Symantec and Cisco WebEx), GFI/TeamViewer, Sunbelt Software (now ThreatTrack Security), BlueStripe Software, StopBadware, Knowbe4, Malwarebytes, and Runaware Holding AB. When CEO of Sunbelt he ran a security blog, and he still writes on security.