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Apple's Steve Jobs enjoys late-night chat

Steve Jobs has entered into a dialogue with a tech blogger once again defending Apple's anti-Flash policy.

Messianic Apple leader, Jobs has personally answered emails from his publicly-known steve(at) address before now, but his replies have often been brief (some might say terse) or even monosyllabic in nature.

But when Gawker Blogger Ryan Tate decided to fire a broadside at the Apple CEO - fuelled by a Delboy Trotter-inspired cocktail of Brandy and Creme de Menthe, and emboldened by the fact that his wife was out of town and therefore unable to stop him being a tool - little did he expect that Jobs would enter into an in-depth dialogue about Bob Dylan, Internet porn and the ongoing Flash debate.

Tate got the hump after watching an iPad advert on TV and fired off the first salvo in the discussion, referencing grumpy folk-rock troubadour Bob Dylan of whom Jobs is known to be a massive fan.

Tate: If Dylan was 20 today, how would he feel about your company? Would he think the iPad had the faintest thing to do with “revolution?” Revolutions are about freedom.

Jobs: Yep, freedom from programs that steal your private data. Freedom from programs that trash your battery. Freedom from porn. Yep, freedom. The times they are a changin’, and some traditional PC folks feel like their world is slipping away. It is.

Tate then tried to draw Jobs into a debate about Apple's anti Flash stance, accusing the company of engaging in "revenge power bullshit".

Jobs: Gosh, why are you so bitter over a technical issue such as this? It's not about freedom, it's about Apple trying to trying to do the right thing for its users. Users developers and publishers can do whatever they like - they don't have to buy or develop or publish on iPads if they don't want to. This seems to be your issue not theirs.

Tate: Was it a “technical issue” when Microsoft was trying to make everyone write to the Win32 API? Were you happy when Adobe went along with that? You have the chance to set the tone for a new platform. For the new phone and tablet platform. The platform of the future!

I am disappointed to see it’s the same old revenge power bullshit.… PS And yes I may sound bitter. Because I don’t think it’s a technical issue at all — it’s you imposing your morality; about porn, about ‘trade secrets’, about technical purity in the most bizarre sense. Apple itself has used translation layers and intermediate APIs. Objective C and iTunes for Windows are testament to this. Anyone who has spent any time coding knows the power and importance of intermediate APIs. And I don’t like Apple’s pet police force literally kicking in my co-workers’ doors. But I suppose the courts will have the last say on that, I can’t say I’m worried.

Jobs: You are so misinformed. No one kicked in any doors. You’re believing a lot of erroneous blogger reports. Microsoft had (has) every right to enforce whatever rules for their platform they want. If people don’t like it, they can write for another platform, which some did. Or they can buy another platform, which some did.

As for us, we’re just doing what we can to try and make (and preserve) the user experience we envision. You can disagree with us, but our motives are pure.

By the way, what have you done that’s so great? Do you create anything, or just criticize others work and belittle their motivations?

At this point we can only guess that Tate either collapsed in a drunken heap or went off to lick his wounds after geting such a verbal kicking from the obvioulsy irked Apple boss.

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